Winning whiners galore - part 3

The whining about the stupid play and still winning aspect is a new twist that I'm unaccustomed to. Upon reflection, it only serves to prove my case even more.

1) You're not playing Hold'em where our matket research has spent all it's money on, and we do a fairly good job of making it look for real.

2) Let's rely on natural human impatience and make it that someone that dares to buy into a 20k Omaha Hi-Lo table has such a bad experience that they give up on the "weird" game.

3) Let's rely on human impatience and rig the first 20 hands so that they won't play the weird table. It didn't happen tonight, but let's also taunt the real human player for folding crap and not going all in like every one else does. For good measure, let's not compliment the real human/non-admin player for winning. Maybe he'll get sad and leave us alone.

No freasking way. You guys are all up on my radar screen. EVERY SINGLE POKER SITE I'VE PLAYED ON HAS SHOWN SIGNS THAT IT'S RIGGED TO THE GILLS.

And, you keep expecting me to play for real money?

Coming soon, a review of the worst events in the last seven years. Things like playing blackjack and taking a hit on a hard 19 and catching a 2. Yep, happened three times. Players busting on a 19 - 0

YFR!

Winning whiners galore - part 2

After a multitude of bad beats I did have a stretch of hands that made me whole again. After being very patient and folding a lot while watching the bad movie unfold. Actually, I had positive point flow for the night despite the bs.

The obvious vaccuums had left the table, and Boone shows up.

Despite the fact that he's massively up chips, he whines about the constant all-in betting. Dude...er AI....just enjoy it.

Winning whiners galore - part 1 of 3

As is usual, I pick what looks to be the single most unreasonable game based on the chips in play. I score big time on the first table. Yacht kept whining about being cheated by scanners the entire time. Yet, still he keeps coming back for more. And not only does he sit in every hand, he goes all in every hand.

I've grown accustomed to this collateral damage cheat, so naturally I avoid it. It's fairly obvious that Yacht solely exists to raise the pot. At one point he even had over $300k and still kept whining about being cheated by scanners (on a 20k max buy in table.)

Since it costs more energy to rig it than it takes me to fold I just keep watching the bad movie unfold.

End part 1

This is why we hate (and love) Elimination Blacjack on UB.

It;s a given - the house has an edge because you have to go first and risk busting. If real people where concerned about there chips it would be natural to expect that the betting would be low, but again and again and again, AI that doesn't have to worry about the chip stack gets the luxury of betting massively every single hand.

If it was for real and people were playing to win and not just mindless raising this table would have had something like 20k total chips out. It's not like you were dealt a pair of aces pref-flop in hold'em - you just raised to the max totally on the fly before ever seeing any cards dealt to you. It's the blackjack version of bingo.

Why is it that every single elimantion BJ game I play has so much heavy betting (other than me) on the first hand.

K...I'll tell ya. Because it's rigged AI with nothing to lose since the chip stack can be magically refreshed and I can play on without earning it through being smart.

Even when you don't do the stupid stuff like hitting on hard 13 when the dealer has a 6 showing, the betting patterns are obviously stupid.

Please send me an email that says, "Dear 'X', we acknowledge your pain. I realize we have been screwing you over this past few years. I promise in the future you will only play against REAL poeple that are concerned about whether they win or lose."

Betting, and why the math don't work

Because, there is a constant stream of "people" so willing to call the irrational dumb ass pre-flop raises.

I try not to be too repetitive, but this gets a bump. Apparently, and this every single poker site, the way to play Omaha Hi-Lo is to go all in on even the most marginal of hands every single hand. This "bingo" philosphy is so pervasive that one tends to think the sites are all controlled by the same people.

And the reason bingo exists - oh something like 95% of the positions you butt up agaisnt are some lame ass that can't think of a better name than hhhhhhhhjjjkkkllll or whaqtever this moron was playing on the fly with, and they don't actually have to earn any chips. The stack will magically be refreshed. And, in general, when I'm in on a hand the raising is bigger than when I'm not. Glad to know you hate me. Blackjack on UB betting coming right up.

The magnanimous benefactor (after cheating you all game long.)

Kammie was in on the "Monty Haul" fun for several hands. Surely they would claim that she's just reall tired an needs to get some sleep.

But, if you're soooo tired that you aren't willing to play competive, why play at all? Just go to sleep instead of playing all in max every hand - the game didn't take THAT long.

So, KAMMIE and the other 3 players are met with this friendly message about how she's going to sit out and be eliminated by playing it cool. I didn't - I was in "Monty Haul" mode all the way.

You can bet the max, hit until you bust every hand and spend less than 2 more minutes of your miserable AI life and assure it if you are that magnanimous, instead of me actually thinking about the player I did eventually beat out for second place. Naturally Ms "All-In Max almost every single hand" took first.

Only one picture per post, so please bear with me

The follow up will be posted shortly-

Elimination blacjack on UB, since it is rigged, follows three basic patterns.

1) Everybody behaves themselves and plays like a realistic gambler. This happens, oh maybe 33 1/3rd% of the time. The dealer wins a normal amount of hands.

2) The dealer is invincible and you survive by playing normal. This also happens 33 1/3rd% of the time.

3) The dealer just bankrupted the casino. Massive raises all around that keep winning. Except me until I realize it's a "Monty Haul" table and start the successful aggressive betting campaign.

Preferring #1 and #2, my betting strategy is pretty conservative. This player didn't just indicate "Monty Haul." It opened the window, and shouted out, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm Monty Haul!!!"

Not one, not two but THREE positions took a hit with a hard 13 when the dealer showed a six. If this happened in a brick and mortar casino I'm sure all observers would have to be dragged away laughing uncontrollably by security since the bets were so big AND it worked for them. But, since it's just a stupid little rigged free money game for my benefit since no real humans other than me were playing, it will be ignored in the annals of history.

But, you did give me a little tidbit to apply my famous investigative mind to - my qualifying table finished first. For giggles I checked the other table before it was done. Three hands to get to the last elimination hand that will eliminate one of the four left. And...what's this? Why are the cards being dealt at least 2 times faster than my table was? Hmmmmm....maybe because you allow for a human time to process the information and think about it, while AI needs no time to think?

This is something that can be proven, and since they stupidly let me take second several more games will be played and everytime I qualify for the final table I will be checking the speed of play on any other tables in the same tourney.

And this just 10-15 hands or so after sitting in onto this glorious and unrigged (snicker) table. Vivident - another name that just doesn't sleep on this sorry ass site went from the previous post of having well over 100k chips, raising every hand and losing it all since the vacuums had been changed to different positions. Namely, Hogs, went from a 1,500 chip buy in to damn near 100k in that span.

And me - hands won in 40 played 2. Hands folded that would have won - 1.

Glad I have your attention.

New Citypoker madness

Ohmigod...you just logged in and sat...I need time to rig...please sit out despite the fact the dealer button is ages away from you.

Internet poker is a fraud

I have the luxury of not having to pay attention to things like a wife and kids. Yeah, my dog hates my hobby, but he'll get over it.

My hobby - busting internet poker for the fraud it is.

Don't care too much about my chips. I care about you looking stupid. And with damn near a million chips on the table on a 10k max buy in table, this is about as bad as it gets. Come on, really?!

A million chips on a max buy in table of 10k? Think of the feeder support this needs. Think about how these dickweeds didn't butt heads against each other.

As always, if the free chip tables aren't for real, why the hell should I put real money into this?

Ooops, again (and again)

Tried to add my nemesis gamblgrl to the buddy list. Strangely, she doesn't exist. Strangely, remodidit, Jerry 585 and --pacesetter were added to the buddy list, but even though I'm at the same table they don't show up as being online.

Someone might be tempted to think that these players where created "on the fly" and that the game was rigged.

OK, yeah, right, sure, yup

Since I was screwed over on my 350k stack my new account has been kickin' ass. Back to the baby tables. Nothing new for me...often I've nuked the entire stack to prove that in a 3 player game I just simply don't win one in three hands.

But the crap still exists on the baby tables.

Nu only had 5000 chips or so when I sat in. As always, the game was pretty unreasonable. Since I fold a lot on unreasonable games the stupid admin decided to taunt me. (Not with these words, just by the actions.) Oh wow! look at my chip stack! Let's put a player on the table called "Get a Life". Because if you pretend to have a brain and sit on this table I'm going to kill you with my mad poker.....er.....admin cheating skills.

Now, look at the chip stack. Let me think about this for a second. You have a million chips play money. The signals say you're very good. You're playing on a crappy fixed limit free money game- way too low for a supposedly skilled player. And you have nothing better to do with your life than taunt me? And rig some hands of cards?

Don't tell me to get a life - you get a life. And stop posting me getting great screen shots of how awful this site is and internet poker in general is..

Cowards

I have the courage of a ton of statistical evidence, including lots of screen shots that bear it out instead of "Hey, guys....just take my word for it." For the longest time I wondered, why don't they just banish me from the site?

I haven't tried to disguise what my player name is. It's all out there in the open. I played on Full Tilt just last night. No problems other than the usual obvious AI. Today I get a blank login screen instead of autosave just letting me get on right away. OK, there's a "I forgot my password option." They email me a temporary password so I can reset it. So very kind of them. Since it doesn't work it's useless.

Having lots of sites to bust on I didn't mention this until now, but several months ago I encountered the same problem with UB's "Ultimate Buddy." That was a great source of damaging screenshots - all the joke user names and taunting. But they still let me play, at least until I attacked how unreasonable their fixed limit 1000-2000 tables were. About three weeks ago I was locked out of them with the same blanked out log-in info. And as far as I have found they don't even have a retrieve the lost password option. Being creative I have made another account, but I lost about 350k investigative folding chips losing the old account. I wonder how long the new account will last.

With options available, I logged on to CityP and lo and behold, for the first time in three weeks I did not see KEEPA, KERPOKER, HUGS2U and several other names that ALWAYS popped up at the Omaha Hi Lo tables regardless of when the hell I log in. But they still haven't quite figured me out yet. Usually the cheat is get bored and finally call hands with bad cards. Or, get lets of bad cards, when you finally get a good hand you get bad beat on the turn or river. Since I usually wait til I have the nuts or near nuts before I raise the fact that I had an ace in 7 out of the first ten hands and 15 out of the first 23 hands did not make me bet stupid. I ended up winning, but I had a stretch of approx 24 hands with lots of aces that I folded on that would not have won if I had stayed in. To their credit, City didn't have an overwhelming amount of irrational raising tonight. But, I attribute this to them keeping the major vaccuums in the stalls instead of bringing them out.

What the poker sites need to realize is that I am far from a rookie at doing this. It's not some angry rant after one bad night. I've been doing this for more than 7 years. Always alert for the subtle things, too. What is the chat like? Does this really look like a real conversation between rational human beings? Hey! You just raised when there's a window that you should have to wait until a menu option comes up! How did you buy in with 93k at the table I'm at with a 10k max? And so forth. There's definitely a Wizard of Oz behind the scenes manipulating what is going on.

But of course, since there is no good answer to issues like this, banishment is an attractive alternative.

Nice try, but I'm not buying it

This must have been a rookie admin mistake. I sit at a table with a 20k max buy-in where someone has 2 million chips that can't possibly be for real. JD whines about how it's obviously bogus. Bluffer keeps calling and winning.
JD, that's because you're what we call a "feeder". And the truth of it was proven over the next few hands. Why the hell would you keep going all-in every single hand if you were so sure that it was rigged?

The answer is because the table was trying to bait me into losing. In the first 9 hands I had 7 aces. An ordinary mortal would have called all of them or even raised. Not being an ordinary mortal I folded out and watched how only my first hand would have been a winner. Then, the next 20 hands had someone going all in pretty much every hand. I had a ton of great hole cards that I folded....that would have lost. Actually, thanks for the heads up - I did win 60k.

Dear CityPoker, Part 2

Let's start out with Insiders Betting Digest's article on how to choose a poker site that won't cheat you. At first I emphasized the section that referenced how most sites use 'bots to cheat you. The implication is that CityPoker, ergo, does not.

Here's what they say about "Critical Mass" being important to choosing a poker site (directly from the magazine) -

"You don't want to join a poker room and then find out there's no ome else to play against. There should be a minimum of 500 concurrent tables and 100 games playing at once. The more players at a specific site, the more games to play in. This means no long waits for a tournament to fill up or hoping that maybe tonight there will actually be some players at the Omaha tables. An abundance of players usually also equates to an abundance of new or bad players, which is a plus for your bankroll."

Then, why does this site offer obviously fraud filled free money tables? I've spent a little over three weeks here. And using the time honored tricks of taking vacation time and messing up my sleep schedule I continue to see the same names at the Omaha Hi-Lo tables at 2am, 5am, 8am, 12:30pm, 4pm, 7pm...welll, you get the point. In fact, this site's "stable" of fake 'bots is far smaller than any site I've busted. Pokerstars, Absolute and Full Tult are the worst for filling up the tables and showing you in the lobby that there are multiple 10s of thousands of "players" at the site. Tonight, City had no one playing 7 stud, 3 people playing Omaha Hi, and my table I purposefully picked because with a 10k max buy in, there's WAAAAYYYY too many chips at this table.

And the "poker" by these "players" was so ridiculous as to be laughable.

1) MyLife raised on everysingle hand except a three hand break in the middle of twenty.

2) There was a big pre-flop raise on every single hand in that stretch of twenty.

3) Every single hand, other than me, that had an ace at least called if not raised when it had an ace.

4) I was dealt a ridiculous number of aces (10 hands out of 25 had an ace) and I shared a pot in one. I only folded one that would have shared - two KKs on the board when my pocket eights would have won KK88 over KK77 - a very crappy high hand for Omaha Hi-Lo. Combined with the stupid raising it was obvious the cards were rigged to get me to waste my chips by betting instead of just the occasional call. You should know by know raising is something that happens for me once in a blue moon.

5) Chat is disabled when someone goes all in. Since there were so many hands with a player all in there's a very small window to post chat at times. Please give a logical explanation on how within a fraction of a second after a hand finished someone hand managed to type 15 or so characters on what a nice hand the winner had. (Hint, you can't - it's impossible.)

Maybe what you guys need to do is just stop offering the oddball games and only offer Texas Hold'em. Because, I will pop up ANYWHERE. Last night I sat in on 100-200 7 stud Hi-Lo fixed limit on Full Tilt and for an hour I was met with -

1) A "player" that raised every single opportunity.

2) Another position that complained about what a jackass "he" was.

3) 2 other postions (with their ohhhhhhh so scary 500,000 bankrolls) defending the jackass and saying ludicrous things about how he, "only raises when he has three low cards." Well, no, he didn't have every single hand dealt to him with three low cards. I'm not sure if the position from #2 was legitimately upset or just part of the scam. And the no aces in the first 22 hands things certainly looked a little weird.

So City, and the rest of you idiots, please remember. I'm competent. Focused. Your on my radar screen. If you can't make it look for real, just don't even offer the table.

No time is sacred on the weekend

This is curious. I got a glowing recommendation about CityPoker from InsideBetting Digest. The mag proclaims that they can differentiate between good sports betting sites and bad sites. And for the first time ever they rank poker sites.

Well, the poker thing is a huge bust. This site has all the problems that the other ones do. Specifically, the "Critical Mass" the magazine names. If you don't happen to want to play Texas Hold'em, you have to wait forever for your table to fill up and the game to start. So, let's fill it up with artifical intelligence. And then, to give the illusion of competence, let's make sure the AI has an infinite amount of chips to play on and can raise every single hand with no worrries.

So while I'm wiating for my rigged table to open up as I'm on the wait list I check out the other Omaha table available. Someone named Sports Book. Hmmmm.....

Do you maybe...
work for this fradulent site?

The newest extreme in online poker stupidity - the LindaHayes incident

For God's sake, don't even offer Omaha Hi-Lo as a game if you can't table enough real human players. This was so rigged on so many levels, it's impossible that a sane human could believe it was for real.

Sleep. Check. Woke up rested and refreshed at 12:30 am EST. Coffe. Check. Just for good measure, even though caffeine and I don't get along too much, I enjoyed a cup of Vietmanese coffee. (Thanks Nhung!) Food. Check. Since I was messing with Citypoker so much yesterday I missed out on the basic need for food.

So, I'm in this for the long haul. Hours at sitting at AP.

Contrary to an ordinary mortal I search out the most unreasonable looking table. Great, I found one with a plyer with 400k+, several others with more than 100k+. Time to sit in and make the vacuums go against each other.

What???? An empty seat at the table when I click in and it's reserved? And, WHAT!? When I click on the wait list I'm fourth!? Within a few seconds four people jumped ahead of me?!?

Actually, pretty cool, because it again proves I'm not playing against real people.

Finally, after much dilly-dallying I get to sit in. After a couple of hands an observer posts that they are going to "help Linda" on another table. In order to enturbulate things I decided to check the other table out. I sit in and I'm bombarded with messages about how I need to sit out because these peeps are helping Linda. I cut them a break and ducked out. Back to the first table and more folding. An occasional call that loses and more folding.

And within a few hands Linda shows up. She plays like a chump feeder, lingers around and starts to score. Then the admin starts to go crazy and does all the things wrong with the chat that I've grown accustomed to. "WEEEEEEEEEE" on a bingo win. "Thanks, HUN" (it's never "Honey" or any other mock up.)

I did win most of the chips back I lost on the bingo nonsense. But I had to 'play' 42 hands before something resembling real poker was at the table. And when I ducked out after 54 hands I had all the way 11 aces. Ridiculous,

Dear CityPoker

I'm smarter than the mindless morons you must have working for you, so let me give you some tips since I've been doing this for seven years.

First off - don't come up into my radar screen by advertising in a magazine and getting yourself declared as the best poker site on the internet. The one that doesn't cheat. The one that has "critical mass" and tons of players at the oddball games. I'm an Omaha Hi- Lo wizard. Live with it. Deal with it. Don't try and cheat me, I WILL get bored and move in.

As for the cheating, Let KERPOKER get a little sleep once in a while. It's completely obvious this is the FreckledMom of this sorry ass site. Whenever I do butt heads vs. KER and win, a bunch of feeders playing stupid show up to make her whole. It would be more realistic if I only butted heads with KER 5 times a week instead of every single session.

But of course, I'm complaining about myself. With a small difference.

I login and look for the most unreasonable game possible, fold a truckload of hands and wait until I have a chance to score. The benefit of this is that I continually sit at tables full of vacuums that don't have the feeder support to make them look real, and every once in a while like tonight someone loses 100k chips+ in a single hand because it's vacuum vs. vacuum.

This is why operation Sit and Go is so effective. And it's been awhile since I've done that. (Note to self - Operation Sit and Go on tomorrow). The table AI changed to admin managed AI doesn't change for a couple of hands. You can win a big hand or two n Omaha if you wait until your first Ace and first hand you folded that would have won.

And last night I took a break - 2 table game marathon on FT that I had the smallest chip stack and ended up taking third. Hmmmm - have I seen this bad movie once before? Every single freaking one of the last two dozen FT 18 player games has had me extremely short stacked, usually dead last, at the final table and finally I manage to score some cards and finish in the (play) money.

So, I nust think that the poker sites must have a philosophy of "Wait out the normal human impatience - give them a tiny bone if they slog through the ridiculous crap."

Elimination Blacjack is now on AP!

And it's every bit as bad. My very first hand - some moron splitting tens to the max. Naturally it worked for him.

Soulfire exposed

When this bullshit had gone on for 5 hands or so while I was on the waiting list. All the active positions kept betting and calling 19,900 every hand. Then when Soul would raise they'd all fold. Rebuy, rinse, repeat.

Rather pointless. It only serves to prove that there are so many positions that have an infinite chip stack out there that they can do this nonsense. And Soul should be one of those stupid infinite chip stacks. Why feed? The guy would have to be a complete moron to think his skill had anything to do with his success if he was being courted in the free trial period.

And, I'm happy to report Freckledmom is still active and back to her old ways.\

Now that I have over 3 million on Absolute, one would tend to think I wouldn't be playing a 2,000 chip max buy in table. No dice wankers - I'm all about the reasonableness of the play. Try harder. Freckled lost chips and I got some new names for my vacuum search list.

Soulfire ON FIRE

SOUL_OF_FIRE was met with this congratulatory string of chat, obviously regarding the masterful play it took to get to the point of being over a million chips at the table.

Dallas Avenue

An ordinary person would not subject themselves to this punishment. Being a masochist, I searched through the AP tables until I found a golden one.

The chip leader has over 1 million. That's stupid enough as is, but there's another half million+ on other positions that have over the 20k buy in.

If it were real poker, the amount of players sitting in and willing to lose that number of chips in the normal couple of hours a normal person would play is insane. And it's more insane that these jokers don't butt heads with each other and kill each other off.

It's a table full of vacuums that selectively only target feeders. If by collateral damage I lose some chips along the way, so much the better for them. Killer was the Feeder God. He even whined about how he had lost over 700k. Well, dumb ass, that's what you deserve for all the stupid pre-flop raising.

One thing about AP that I love is that there is more folding here when a bet hasn't been made that you can check on, instead of folding. It's a big warning banner that says, "I know what the outcome of the hand is before it's done."

Yeah, sure

And Ker had 150k too on this 10k max buy in table. And Ker keeps showing up at all kinds of odd hours.

5 hands - preflop bet all 5.

City Poker Scam part two

And Hugs entered with 93k when 10k is the max buy in.


Peripheral notes: No caht for the first 15 hands. Flurry for three, no chat for the remaining 20 or so hands. Weird. One would tend to think you might not be playing against real people.

4 nines beat my flopped AAA99 boat. Smart enough to fold it before losing at the showdown.

Pre-flop raising has agin disappeared after a week of ridiculous all ins. One would tend to think that it's strange that a site where everyone is so aggressive in a mtter of days changes to a conservative "let's see the cards" mode.

Oh, screw it, let's not mince any words. You're just another bogus poker site with artificial intelligence out the wazoo.

The City Poker Scam exposed again

Hugs sat at the seat I wanted to sit in. With more than 90,000 chips.

Played like three hands and left.

LOL

New table, new vacuum Ker, way too many chips for the buy in max. Caught the nut straight on the second hand I played, he bolted faster than a nail gun. Won all the chips I was cheated at on my "normal" session, plus more.

Do not put players at the table with huge stacks versus me. The math just doesn't work.

CityPoker still rules!

Best poker site on the net! Finally a site where I'm playing against real human beings instead of AI!

Oh, enough of that claptrap.

City scores some points for being the fastest site I've ever played on to adjust to the fact that a different set of rules apply to me. It's been less than a week, I have over 60k chips, and every stupid table (until tonight) has had a pre-flop bet on Omaha almost every single hand. Now tonight, on a full table I'm suddenly confronted with something like 4 pre-flop raises (only one all in) in 35-40 hands.

100s of people think raising every hand for 5 days, into one night where I just happened to play at a table (that I got extremely crappy cards on) where it's like, "Ooops! we've been caught! Let's change the program to make it alittle more reasonable."

Here's a clue for you CP. I know how to play Texas Hold'em and I'm good at it. If you can't program your Omaha to be reasonable - don't offer it. It just makes you look silly and stupid. And since you're under my radar I will be sitting at many Omaha tables for weeks unconcderned about the chips and counting how many aces I get, how many irrational pre-flop raises there are,, how many huge stacks there are versus the max buy-in, the lack of chat in general, the lack of acknowledging my existence and all the other stuff that indicates I'm playing against a computer instead of real people.

CityPoker rules!

Not. Let's review some simple statistics. The maximum table buy in is 10k. You have more than 150k and keep pushing the pot every single hand, which leads to me having....

32 hands played. 30 hands with a dumb ass pre-flop raise. 6 aces. # of hands folded that would have won 0. Finally scored on an A2 after folding a ridiculous # of hands. Which includes two losing sessions where I bought in at 1500 and had to suffer the usual bad beats.

The chat posted, as well as the game "play" if you can call it play is all indicative of AI rigged to win.

Geez, I'm an Omaha Hi-Lo wiz, if you can't fill the table with real players, just don't even offer the table. Or block me like UB did.